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hurdlebeast · Jan 12, 2008, 08:21 AM // 08:21

me, personally, would replace immolate with rodgort's invocation. it does nice damage, and causes burning to target and surrounding. i love that skill

Articus Red · Jan 12, 2008, 08:38 AM // 08:38

Well if I knew that, I would of done it! Thanks pal.

LightningHell · Jan 12, 2008, 09:47 AM // 09:47

If you're not spamming Searing Flames why even bring it?

blue.rellik · Jan 12, 2008, 10:29 AM // 10:29

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Originally Posted by LightningHell

If you're not spamming Searing Flames why even bring it?

Maybe...he's fighting....Destroyers?

i dunno

Tyla · Jan 12, 2008, 12:29 PM // 12:29

Lose flare!!! lose immolate!!!! put in rodgorts invocation!!!and something to support the monks!!!!

LifeInfusion · Jan 12, 2008, 02:57 PM // 14:57

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Flare
Immolate
Fireball
Meteor
Meteor Shower
Mark of Rodgort
Elemental Attunement
Fire Attunement

12+1+1 fire magic
12+1 energy storage
3 illusion magic

golden boar scepter energy +5 while hexed and 20 percent change of half skill recharge time
flame artifact energy +12, 20 percent change half the recharge and cast time on my spells.

On the skills, Flare is a waste of energy unless it returns you 100% energy and even more so when you have the spammable Immolate. If you're using it to trigger Mark of Rodgort (on one target?), you could just get away with wanding using a fire damage staff or wand assuming you don't cast anything often. That means you get space for a res btw.

I'd personally take out Immolate for Rodgort's Invocation regardless. Elemental attunement is strongest with Rodgort's Invocation since you don't get hammered with exhaustion and bypass the only limitation of Rodgort's which is the 25 energy. (It has low recharge and 2 cast time.)

You could probably get a cover enchantment instead to protect that fragile dual attunement setup if you don't have a prot monk with you. (Mystic Regen is good here since you aren't using 15/25 energy spells often enough to warrant Aura of Restoration but if you have Nightfall you wouldn't run Elemental Attunement, you'd run Mindblast).

On the attributes, I don't see why you'd run Energy storage that high if you're using dual attunements since Elemental attunement lasts long enough at around 11-12 Energy Storage. 12+1+1 fire/10+1 energy storage/8earth prayers would allow you to get mystic regen and similarly 12+1+1 fire/10+1 energy storage/8+1 earth magic would allow you to splash in a ward (seeing how you have elemental attunement, why not) and actually make elemental attunement more useful than say, Glyph of energy (seeing you have no glyph and long recharges of 60 on the ones that are over 10 energy).

As for equipment, do yourself a favor and getting a decent 20/20 wand (20% Halves cast is so much better than +5 energy on an elementalist with energy storage that high).

This suggestion assumes you don't have Mind Blast.

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Originally Posted by Articus Red

Fire Attunement
Hit 'em eith Fireball
Burn em with Immolate
Burn and damage with Searing Flames
Throw in a Glowing Gaze for some Energy
Use a Glyph of Lesser Energy for last 2 spells
Use Liquid Flame
And Finish off with Meteor Shower if necessary

It's pretty good build on energy, It doesn't kill all my energy, and it gets the job done damage wise. What do you guys think?

As for your revised builds, Searing Flames isn't that good if you run 2 cast time spells in between because you want the burning to be constantly on. Immolate isn't effective on a Searing Flames Bar since it only burns one target. Your typical bars will consist of

Searing Flames, Glowing Gaze, Mark of Rodgort (if the only SF in team, to reapply burning), Liquid Flame (1 cast time), Fire Attunement , 3 optionals
Searing Flames, Glowing Gaze, Glyph of Sacrifice (for meteor shower to not screw your searing Flames chaining), Meteor Shower, Fire attunement, Mark of Rodgort, 2 optionals (1 of which is most likely Resurrection chant with its glyph synergy)

.

Arkantos · Jan 12, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

Maybe...he's fighting....Destroyers?

i dunno

If he's fighting destroyers, why would he be going fire?

mr_groovy · Jan 12, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

[skill]Searing Flames[/skill][skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill][skill]Glyph of Sacrifice[/skill][skill]Meteor Shower[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Aura of Restoration[/skill]

That's the general build That leaves open 2 skill slots for utill skills. Can be res, any wards, [skill]steam[/skill] or any of the EOTN pve skills.

Pretty straightforward: Fire attune energy management. Aura of Resto for Healing and Cover enchantment.
Glyph of sac for instant MS. MS for damage and knockdown (interrupt).

Bring this with a hero SF, a ToF support paragon hero & a jagged mm hero and your pretty much GG for 90% of PVE.

Articus Red · Jan 12, 2008, 10:52 PM // 22:52

Well the reason I like to run Immolate is cause when the foe is already on fire SF will do fire damage to them plus set them on fire even longer, but I suppose I can get the same result with rodgorts invocation and instead of targeting one foe I can target multiple foes to start burning to set up with searing flames. I do spam searing flames, I tend to go from Immolate > SF > Glowing Gaze > Liquid Flames then I repeat that cycle and when my energy runs low I'll use Glyph of Lesser Energy so I don't waste energy. Thats a pretty good way to run it the way I run it no? But I do see I can take out Fireball and put in Glyph of Sacrafice. Also maybe I can take out meteor shower due to its long cast time and put in mark of rodgort? Hm, well thanks for the suggestions I appreciate them and take them all into consideration into my new build! I hadn't updated my ele's build in such a long time I had all old spells :X I'm a little out of date of whats a good build to use. Haha

Edit: But I do have the option to get Mind Blast. I'd just have to go into the area and cap is really quick. But yeah I haven't gone to do that yet.

Second Edit: Where can I find a 20/20 fire wand?

Sir Pandra Pierva · Jan 13, 2008, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by Proff

[skill]Fireball[/skill][skill]Glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]glyph of renewal[/skill][skill]meteor shower[/skill][skill]rodgort's invocation[/skill][skill]fire attunement[/skill][skill]aura of restoration[/skill][skill]rebirth[/skill]

That's the best fire ele prophecies build.

dual attune flare spammer is better <_<>_>.

Too much e-usage

rodgorts and met shower on the same bar=phail

Also Read this topic
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10241962

the only fire ele build you will ever need

LifeInfusion · Jan 13, 2008, 12:50 AM // 00:50

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

If he's fighting destroyers, why would he be going fire?

Maybe like the Ring of Fire ("RANGER WITH WINTER LFG") lol

still makes Searing Flames useless though

20/20 Fire wand = Droknar's Fire Scepter / Hajkor's Flame

(http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/List_...t_unique_items)

For just the HSR20 you can get a collector's wand (http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/List_...lector_weapons)

Stormlord Alex · Jan 13, 2008, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

met shower and no glyph of sacrifice=phail

fix'd

I've run RI and MS quite happily next to each other before now (... on a Mind Blaster

)

That is, till I slapped myself for wasting a skill on MS

Articus Red · Jan 13, 2008, 01:19 AM // 01:19

Thanks for the weapon, now time to try and farm it and hopefully that douche drops it, I never have good luck with those kind of things lol. But yeah at the moment I'm not fighting destroyers I'm down in the asura homelands, but when I do fight the destroyers, I will tell my friend to use winter with her ranger! Haha..if that crap even works :/

LifeInfusion · Jan 14, 2008, 02:10 PM // 14:10

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

fix'd

I've run RI and MS quite happily next to each other before now (... on a Mind Blaster

)

That is, till I slapped myself for wasting a skill on MS

I have to agree. Meteor Shower is a waste unless there is a multiple CLUMPED monk/healer group (as in your party ranger/mesmer will not be able to shutdown that amount). Most time you'll end up using something else that doesn't take 25 energy + exhaustion (not mitigated by energy management except Glyph of Energy).

LightningHell · Jan 14, 2008, 03:07 PM // 15:07

Meteor Shower is only useful when it's a planned occurence. I.e. mostly just specific subsets of farming.

I don't think that has ever been contested.